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Small world indeed! I WISH I could have gone to Winnetonka. My parents made me go to St. Pius like my four older siblings, but they let me little sister go to Winnetonka. I went to Eastgate Middle School, and most of my friends went to North Kansas City High School. Any chance you worked at Worlds of Fun? (Or did that close long ago . . .)

I have a busy morning but will write more later about my thoughts (for what they’re worth!)on your No Labels piece. Have a great morning!

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Hi Michael! Quick follow up on my comment. I am a long time member of No Labels who helped start a grassroots Texas No Labels group. I disagreed with the links you included about No Labels. (You can stop reading here if you don't care about No Labels).

The link you included calling No Labels "putatively centrist" was an opinion piece, not a factual piece about No Labels. Thomas Edsall is the type of person I think of as having been in DC too long to have an understanding of the rest of the country. Edsall suggests NL is functionally an asset of the Trump campaign which it is not. Edsall also falls into the trap so many Democrats do regarding Harlan Crow. There are great pieces out there about Crow--he started supporting No Labels because the GOP had changed and he wanted Congress to function better, much as I did. Crow does NOT like Trump and is currently donating to Nikki Haley.

Suggesting something nefarious about NL not disclosing donors is hypocritical coming from Third Way and Lincoln Project which are both (c)(4)s who do not disclose their donors.

ThirdWay whose data you cited is run by Matt Bennet who DOES take money from corporations (NL does not) and works to influence on the Hill. There is some personal story there about Bennett's antipathy for No Labels, and I wish he'd disclose it. OR I wish he, MoveOn, LincolnProject etc. would spend their, time, talent and money convincing Americans that Joe Biden is a good candidate capable of doing the hardest job in the world for four more years. Personally, I worry Biden cannot beat Trump which is one reason I want NL to have ballot access. Ryan Clancy of No Labels worked for Biden when Biden was VP. The other founders of No Labels all worked for Democrats and, I suspect, think highly of Joe Biden as a person. No Labels has never drawn a moral equivalence between Biden and Trump; just noted Americans want and deserve better choices to lead the country for the next four years.

More than you wanted to hear about No Labels, I am sure! Keep up the great work with your Substack!

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